Indoda eyaziwa ngokuba ngu-Ian Chesterton, iqabane lokuqala likaGqirha oyindoda, uthetha ngesibheno esihlala sihleli kulo mboniso.
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Ngomsebenzi obuyela emva ngo-1949, uthatha uLancelot, uNicholas Nickleby kunye noRita wesibini u-hubby eCorrie, uWilliam Russell waziwa kakhulu ngo-Ian Chesterton, uGqirha Ngubani iqabane lokuqala eliyindoda (1963-65). Ngoku kwi-80s yakhe kwaye ehlala emantla eLondon, wabelana ngohambo lwakhe lweTardis kunye no-RT kaPatrick Mulkern...
Ngoko ngokwenene u-Ian wayeliqhawe lokuqala elifanelekileyo kuGqirha Ngubani?
Wayenjalo ngokwenene. U-Verity [uLambert, umvelisi] wandimemela kwi-BBC kwisidlo sasemini kwaye ndathi kuye, 'Ke ndiyindoda yesenzo?' kwaye wathi, 'Injalo kanye loo nto.' Undixelele ukuba uBill [William Hartnell] uza kudlala indima ephambili, kodwa angayi kulwa. Ndavuya.
IVerity yayibalasele ngeendlela ezininzi kwaye yaphumelela kakhulu kumabonwakude. Kodwa kwintlanganiso yam yokuqala kunye naye, wayemncinci kwaye eqaqambile, kwaye ndandingakholelwa ncam ukuba uza kuba ngumvelisi. Ndandiwaqhelile la manene amadala eBBC.
Ukhumbula ntoni ngebali lokuqala?
Kwafuneka senze ifilimu encinci kwi-Ealing Studios. Kwakusekupheleni kwesinye seziqendu kwaye sobane sasikwimood engaqhelekanga kakhulu ngaloo mini. UBill, uJackie [Hill] noCarole [Ann Ford] kunye nam safumanisa ukuba sinoburharha obufanayo. Saba nesidlo sasemini esimnandi kakhulu kwaye sasihlala sijikeleza intsasa yonke singenzi nto emva koko ngequbuliso bafuna ukwenza ifilimu.
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Umboniso wawubaleka kubalinganiswa bembali yangaphambili kwaye ubuyela eTardis. Kodwa saqhubeka siqhula i-BBC cameraman endala, eyayizama ukusikrola. Besinochuku, ndiyacinga. Kwaye ke abanye babeseLime Grove. Ndikhumbula ndiqhuba imoto yam encinci, uJackie ecaleni kwam, kwinkungu esingise kwindawo emdaka apho safumanisa khona iiTardis.
IRadio Times ikhuthaza uGqirha Ngubani kwiveki ephambi kokuba iqale ngo-1963
Kwafuneka urekhode eso siqendu sokuqala kabini.
Ewe, sonke siye saya kuyibona - iqonga, uVerity noWaris [uHussein, umalathisi] - kwaye sasihleli sonke apho ekugqibeleni waza uSydney Newman [uGqirha onguMdali] waphakama wathi, 'Yenza kwakhona, Waris! ' Kwakufuneka kwenziwe iinguqulelo ezingephi.
IiStudios zaseLime Grove zazixinene kakhulu.
Ndidlale uNicholas Nickleby kwiStudio D, istudiyo esincinci sedrama [ngo-1957, ngezantsi]. Umabonakude ophilayo, ngeCawe emva koko wadlala kwakhona ngoLwesine. Konke kwakutyumke kakhulu.
Inqaku leRadio Times ngoNicolas Nickleby edlala noWilliam Russell ngo-1957
Kwaye wakube ubeke iTardis enkulu ebekwe apho, kuhle… Kuthathe ixesha ukuqhela iTardis, eneminyango eshukumayo kunye naloo nto ingaqhelekanga phakathi njengelungu le-cinema linyuka lisihla. Yayingumsindo onjalo. Yonke into eseti kufuneka ilungelelaniswe: ukukhanya, kunye nazo zonke iintlobo zeziphumo zesandi ezidityaniswe nokunyakaza. Xa ekugqibeleni safudukela kwiZiko likamabonwakude [esiXeko esiMhlophe], sonke samangaliswa kuba ekugqibeleni sasinendawo yaye sasikwazi ukwenza izinto ngendlela efanelekileyo.
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Ngawaphi amabali owakhumbula kakuhle?
Eyokuqala - abaninzi bayahleka xa bephinda beqhelana ne-cavemen. Yenziwe kakuhle kakhulu. Akukho lula ukwenza xa usithi, 'Ndifuna umlilo!' Ndandizithanda kakhulu ezembali. UMarco Polo wayemhle. Iimpahla bezintle. Yayikukubuya okukhulu kukaWaris kuthi, kodwa yenye ethe yanyamalala koovimba.
UWilliam Russell ephethe umbhalo wekhamera wokuqala woMntwana oNgasehlabathini, isiqendu sokuqala sikaGqirha Ngubani. Ifotwe kwikhaya lakhe laseLondon ngu-RT kaPatrick Mulkern, ngo-2010
Wenze amabali amathathu kunye namaDaleks. Wenza ntoni ngabo?
Kaloku, ekuqaleni sasicinga ukuba bayahleka. Uyaqonda, saziswa kubo ngaphandle kwee-tops zabo. Umdlali nje ohleli kolu hlobo lwesiseko sebhafu. Kodwa xa saqalisa ukusebenza nabo, wawunokubona indlela ababeza kuqiniseka ngayo. Ndandinabantwana abathathu abancinci ngelo xesha kwaye babedla ngokufola emva kwesofa kwaye bahlale benyamalala kwiindawo ezahlukeneyo. Kwafuneka ndikhuphe esi sidalwa singaphakathi.
Awuboni nto ingako kwisiqendu, kodwa yayiyinto eyoyikisayo-njengejeli eyoyikekayo. Ngezo mini abantu babengazi ncam ukuba kukho amadoda amancinane ngaphakathi asebenza yonke into.
Ziziphi izinto ozikhumbulayo ngoogxa bakho? UWilliam Hartnell…
Ndandivana kakhulu noBill. Ndandimthanda kakhulu njengomdlali wefilimu. Enye yeefilimu zokuqala endakha ndazibona yayiyiBrighton Rock. Wayesoyikeka kuloo nto. Wayenomgangatho endiwuthandayo, nto leyo yokuba wayeyingozi. Sisakhono esimangalisayo kumdlali weqonga xa ngequbuliso benokujika kwaye bakunike ukungcangcazela - ukutshotshozela phantsi komqolo wakho. Kwaye wayehlekisa naye. Waqala kwi-farce okanye kwi-light-hearted comedies. Wayeneziqhulo ezininzi ngaloo maxesha.
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Ngokwenene wayengumdlali obalaseleyo kwaye wayeyonwabela yonke loo nto. Ndive amabali amaninzi malunga naye elibala imigca yakhe, kodwa andikhumbuli nanye kuloo nto. Kuthi sonke, wayekho ngokupheleleyo, ngalo mzuzu, ngalo lonke ixesha.
Kwaye uCarole Ann Ford owayedlala umzukulwana kaGqirha uSusan…
UCarole wayekulungele ukudlala olu hlobo lomntu lungaqhelekanga. Unento efana nelinye ilizwe. Wayekhangeleka 'engenguye omnye wethu'. Waziva edanile kuba wayecinga ukuba ukhwaza esithi, 'Nceda!' okanye 'Ndibambekile.' Wayecinga ukuba kuzakubakho ngakumbi indima.
Kwaye emva koko uMaureen O'Brien wathatha indawo njengentandane uVicki.
UMaureen wayemangalisa. Akazange akhuphisane noCarole njengomlingiswa welinye ilizwe, kodwa wayebonwa njengomntu oselula oqaqambileyo welo xesha. Ungumdlali weqonga omncinci okrelekrele kakhulu. Kaloku, akasemncinci kangako. Akukho namnye kuthi. Ube ngunoveli. Ngapha koko, ndiye kwenye yeencwadi zakhe ezasungulwa noVerity kwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo.
Ulwalamano lwakho olusondeleyo kufuneka lube noJacqueline Hill owayedlala uBarbara.
Ndandimthanda uJackie. Wayengumfazi omhle kakhulu, yaye sasineenkumbulo ezininzi kuba sasihlala sobabini. Wayeyintombazana yaseCadbury eBourneville eBirmingham. Sasidla ngokuthetha kunye ngeBrummy accent.
Uhlale kuthotho unyaka onesiqingatha. Yintoni eyakwenza ukuba uhambe?
Ndim nje lo, ndiyoyika. Khange ndiyijonge ukuba iqhubeke okoko nje. Ndihlala ndikhangela ithuba lokubuyela kwithiyetha. Ekupheleni kwexesha lethu kuGqirha Ngubani, ndathi kuJackie, 'Masenze iiTables ezihlukeneyo, umdlalo weTerence Rattigan.' Ibilithuba kuthi sobabini kwaye senze ukhenketho oluncinci lwethiyetha. Besingalilileli ukuba siyahamba. Ndihlala ndikhangele phambili kumava alandelayo. Kufuneka ube ngumdlali weqonga.
Ngaba uye wahlala noJackie?
Oh ewe. UVerity naye ebengumhlobo wakhe osenyongweni. Ngoku ndiyazi ukuba kutheni singazange simbone kakhulu uJackie ngaphambi kokuba asweleke kuba wayetshintsha kakhulu esi sifo. Bekumanyumnyezi kodwa ebebethwe nyani engafuni nokusibona. Ndandisoloko ndimtsalela umnxeba ndisithi, ‘Yiza kule okanye kuleya’ kodwa kwakusoloko kukho ukuzithethelela. Kwaye xa ndathetha noAlvin [uRakoff, umyeni wakhe], wathi utshintshe kakhulu kumhlaza kwaye akafuni nje ukubona abantu.
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Kwaye uVerity, ewe, wayenomhlaza, kodwa wawungenakuyazi ukuba wayegula kwaphela. Khandiyazi. Saba nesidlo sasemini esimnandi kwikhefi ekufuphi nekhaya lakhe yaye emva kweentsuku ezilishumi wafa.
Uphendula njani ngesibheno esihlala sihleli sikaGqirha Ngubani?
Ewe, ndicinga ukuba yayibubuhle bukaSydney ekudaleni umlinganiswa, kwaye uWaris wayemangalisa njengomlawuli wokuqala. Wayezimisele kakhulu kodwa naye wayenokonwaba kakhulu. Yayingumsebenzi omhle kakhulu kum. Ndimangalisiwe kukuba ndisafumana iileta. Into yokugqibela endayenzayo xa ndisihla e-Aberdeen yayiyimpendulo yonke i-imeyile yabalandeli. Ndithetha ukuba ndenze le nto, yintoni, kwiminyaka engama-47 eyadlulayo..?
Ngaba uye walulandela ucwangciso ukutyhubela iminyaka?
Ewe, amaxesha ngamaxesha. Ndimangalisiwe kukubona namhlanje. Iqaqambe ngokupheleleyo, njengefilimu enkulu. Inene banemali yokuyisebenzisa, ndithi qho xa ndijonga.
UWilliam Russell wafotwa kwikhaya lakhe laseLondon ngo-2010 ngu-RT kaPatrick Mulkern