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Umbhali othengisa kakhulu uPatrick Gale uthetha no UPatrick Mulkern weRadio Times malunga nomdlalo wakhe wokuqala weTV, Indoda enxibe iOrange. Igugu kwi-BBC ye-Gay Britannia yexesha le-BBC, le parter ibalulekileyo ibekwe kwindawo yengcinezelo ye-1940 kunye ne-2017, kwaye ibonisa usapho lonke ixesha eliphikisanayo nesimo sengqondo ngobufanasini.
(Umfanekiso ngasentla: uPatrick Gale kunye nabadlali uJames McArdle no-Oliver Jackson-Cohen abadlala uThomas noMichael)
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Amaxesha eradio: Indoda enxibe ioyile e-orenji ingene kamnandi kwixesha le-Gay le-Britannia le-BBC kodwa ndiyaqonda ukuba obu bubundlobongela kwaye bekucwangcisiwe iminyaka eliqela…
UPatrick Gale: Ngokuqinisekileyo. Ingozi eyonwabileyo. Umboniso uthathe iminyaka emithandathu ukusukela kwintlanganiso yokuqala ukuya kusasazo lokuqala kwaye wayeqala ukuziva ngathi kukutyeba kakhulu ngasese. Yayicwangcisiwe ekuqaleni njengomdlalo weqonga we-BBC1 oya kuthi uvele nje ujolise kubomi besini. Ndisacinga ukuba yinto eqhelekileyo kwaye kwenzeka nje malunga nabantu abathandanayo kunye neentsapho abazalelwe kuzo - okufana neenveli zam.
- Dibana nabalingisi beNdoda enxibe iOrange
- Incwadana yeRadioTimes.com: fumana iindaba zeTV kunye nezolonwabo ngqo kwi-inbox
RT: Isiqendu sokuqala siphumelele ukuhlelwa ngokuhloniphekileyo kwi-BBC2 (1.16m), yayihamba kwi-Twitter kwaye yaziwa ngokubanzi ngababukeli nabagxeki. Uziva njani ngokwamkelwa okufumanekileyo?
UPatrick Gale: Ibimangalisa kakhulu. Ndifumana yonke le ngxelo ishukumayo ngokumangalisayo evela kubabukeli abaziva ubomi babo okanye ubomi babazali babo buye babonakaliswa kubo. Ndiyarhana ukuba abapapashi bam bonwabile ngokunjalo!
RT: I-BBC ikunike ikhomishini ebanzi yokuba ubhale umdlalo weqonga oquka amava e-gay kule nkulungwane idlulileyo. Yayinzima kangakanani loo nto kwaye wayilola njani indlela oyithathileyo?
UPatrick Gale: Yayikhomishini enkulu, eyothusayo kunye nokuthopha kakhulu. Ndiqale ngesindululo esincinci kakhulu kurhwebo-iidrama ezintathu ezibekwe kumaxesha amathathu ahlukeneyo anokuqhagamshelwa ngumzobo wesihloko, indlu yokuhlala apho ibali ngalinye lothando lidlala khona nokuba neqela elifanayo labadlali badlala iindima ezifanayo. Ndikhuthazekile ukuba ndifumane iindlela zokudibanisa amabali ngakumbi kwaye oko kundibeke ndingene kwisayikholojhe nakwimvakalelo kunakwipolitiki okanye kwimbali. Kodwa, njengoko sihlala sixelelwa njalo, ezomntu zezopolitiko, kwaye zihlala zisebenza ngakumbi ukuxelela amabali anje ngokusuka kubuntu, ukusondela njengoko kunjalo, emva kwayo yonke loo nto, indlela esihlala sinayo amava kwezopolitiko nakwimbali ebomini bethu.
RT: Uye wachaza ngokucacileyo ukuba idrama iphefumlelwe yimfihlo kusapho lwakho oludlulileyo xa, kudala, umama wakho wafumanisa kwaye watshisa iileta zothando utata wakho awayezifumene evela kwenye indoda. Zeziphi izinto owawunazo xa wawutyhila esidlangalaleni umba oyimfihlo kubazali bakho?
UPatrick Gale: Ndineempawu ezinkulu. Utata wayesele eswelekile xa ndandiqala ukuphuhlisa umboniso kwaye yayiyinto yokulila ukufikelela kulwazelelelo kweyona ndawo ifihlakeleyo, efihliweyo yebali lakhe. Umama wasweleka kwiminyaka emibini edlulileyo- ngexesha lokukhula- oko kwandikhulula komnye umaleko wothintelo. Abantakwethu ababini basaphila kwaye kuyaqondakala ukuba babenexhala lokuba ndandiza kutyhila eluntwini ibali utata akholelwa ukuba ulise engcwabeni lakhe njengemfihlo. Nangona kunjalo, impendulo efudumeleyo ethe yafunyanwa ngumboniso indenza ndizive ndenze into elungileyo. Imfihlo yabo ebuhlungu iba yeyokwabiwa ngabantu abaninzi ngeminyaka yoo-1940 okanye yoo-1950 yomtshato. Ndandinomdla ngakumbi ukubonisa, ngeFlora, indlela umthetho olwa nesini onefuthe elibi ngayo kubomi babasetyhini abaninzi abathandanayo.
RT: Ewe, phezu komhlaba oku kunokubonwa njengedrama yomlingani egxile kwizibini ezitshatileyo ezingamadoda (uThomas noMichael, emva koko uAdam noSteve) bafumana uthando lokwenene ngamaxesha ahlukeneyo, kodwa ikwabetha kum njengebali likaFlora ngaphezu kwakhe nabani na. Uhlala rhoqo phakathi kwezi ziqendu zibini, edlalwa nguJoanna Vanderham kwixesha lasemva kwemfazwe kunye noVanessa Redgrave kwi2017.
UPatrick Gale: Ndihlala ndikuthanda ukubhala abalinganiswa babasetyhini kuba amaxesha amaninzi ubomi babasetyhini babonakala ngathi banamacala amaninzi kunabesilisa, kwaye bunzima kakhulu. Nge-Flora bendifuna ukuphonononga kungekuphela nje izoyikiso zobundlobongela ezinyanzelweyo kubomi bomfazi omnye kwabalishumi (ukuba ubandakanya oomama noomakhulu ecaleni kwabafazi) kodwa kunye neengcambu zokuba ungqingili ungcwatyiwe kwaye uneentloni. Yayiyinto yomkhenkce kwikhekhe ukuba nabadlali abambalwa abachanekileyo bazise uFlora ebomini.
RT: Iinoveli zakho ezininzi ziwela ixesha kwaye zibonisa usapho kwiminyaka eyahlukeneyo. Umculo ombi (2000) wakha ingxelo phakathi kwangoku kunye no-1968; Iinyani zoBomi (1995) ziqhubela phambili ukusuka kwisibini esikwiminyaka yama-40 ukuya kubazukulwana babo kwiminyaka yama-90s… Le ndlela isebenza kakuhle kwiNdoda enxibe iOrange, kodwa ndiye ndaqonda ukuba iphantse ibe yiminyaka engama-70 phakathi kwefilimu yokuqala neyesibini. UVanessa Redgrave, ngoku oneminyaka engama-80, wayengumntwana kwiminyaka yemfazwe. Ngaba unayo ixesha leeteleskopu ukulungiselela ibali obufuna ukulibalisa?
UPatrick Gale: Hayi ncma. Bendihlala ndikholelwa ukuba ukuba ukulandelwa kwamaxesha amaninzi kuya kusebenza, umtya ngamnye kufuneka ubenakho ukuzimela wedwa njengedrama eyakho. Ndibhala iinoveli zam ezinemida emininzi ngaloo ndlela-ixesha elinye okanye umlinganiswa omnye ngexesha- kwaye kunjalo nakule ndawo. Isiqendu ngasinye sakhawulwa njengebali laso le-arc elinenkxalabo kwaye emva koko ndize kukhetha kwaye ndigxininise ukungqinelana phakathi kwabo. I-Old Flora ngumfazi ohluke kakhulu kuye. Uchithe elona xesha lililo ebomini bakhe ezenza ngathi, esenza amapolisa kwiimpendulo zakhe, ekhusela ukungavumeli ukuba semngciphekweni okanye ihlazo eliyimfihlo libonakalise ngendlela eyoyikekayo yangaphandle.
RT: Kuyathakazelisa ukuba kwiminyaka apho igama lokuzingca linxulunyaniswa ngokusondeleyo ne-LGBT yesazisi, ukhethe ihlazo njengomxholo ophambili ohamba ixesha. Kucacile ukuba kutheni uMichael ebeya kuziva eneentloni kwingcinezelo yoo-1940, kodwa ngo-2017 umzukulwana wakhe uAdam uxelela uFlora, ndinentloni ubomi bam bonke. Kutheni le nto uthathe i-engile kwaye kunzima kangakanani ukuphuma kwimeko-bume yangoku yokulingana nokuvuleleka?
UPatrick Gale: Ndiyazi ukuba ndifuna ukubhala malunga nokuzonda abantu abathandana nabantu besini esinye kwaye ubuncinci esinye sezizathu zaso kwaye ndiziva ndomelele ukuba ubundlobongela bunikwa amandla, amaxesha ngamaxesha, ngenxa yentloni ekhulelwe ebuntwaneni kuninzi lwabantu be-LGBT, ingqiqo yokuba ngandlela thile ifanelwe imbeko encinci okanye unyango olubi kunye nemvakalelo yokuba kufuneka basebenze nzima kunabantu abathe tye ukuze bafezeke. Udinga ukujonga kuphela ukuthandana kwesitabane ukuze ubone ukuba ihlazo lesini liyaphila kwaye-nakwisixeko esintsonkothileyo kukho amadoda amaninzi afihle ubuso bawo kwaye acele ukuqonda. Njengamadoda athandana namanye amadoda ahambayo, ndandingumphuhlisi wokuqala, ndinabahlobo abathandana nabakwishumi elivisayo kwaye ndinethamsanqa, nosapho olungazange lundilahle ngokungagungqiyo. Nangona kunjalo ubulili bam abuzange buvunywe okanye buxoxwe kwaye ukuhlala kokungahambi kakuhle, ukuhlazeka, kubangele ukuba ndihlakulele i-eczema eyaqhubeka de kube yinyanga ekugqibeleni ndashiya ekhaya eyunivesithi. Yayingumthwalo wentiyo endandifuna ukuyihlola kwibali lam le-21st; Libali lendoda eyintombazana ebonakala ngathi iyasebenza kwihlabathi lesini, kodwa kungabikho nto isebenza kwinqanaba leemvakalelo kuba zininzi izinto ebomini bakhe ezingaziwayo kwaye unoloyiko lokusondelana kunye nokuzibophelela.
RT: UAdam ungumlinganiswa ontsonkothileyo ngokumangalisayo. Unemfesane kwaye unobubele, ugqirha wezilwanyana, unobomi obusenyongweni kwindlu yedolophu yaseLondon kunye nogogo wakhe; kodwa naye akonwabanga ngokunzulu, likhoboka lesini kunye nokuzinikela-phobe, ikhoboka lokusebenza kwakhe ukuthandana. Yintoni le usixelela yona malunga nokuziphatha kwamafanasini okwangoku?
IsibhengezoUPatrick Gale: Ndayicacisa gca okoko ndamkelayo ikhomishini ukuba andinamdla wokubhala nantoni na ngokungqalileyo ngokubhiyozela. Ndifuna ukucela umngeni kubabukeli besini esinye ngokuthe ngqo kwaye ndiyile isiqendu sesibini ukuba singonwabi kakhulu ekubukeni nabani na ohendwa ukuba akholelwe ukuba ukulingana phantsi komthetho kukuphela kwebali. Ewe, kukho amakhulu abantu abathandanayo abalungelelaniswe kakuhle phaya, bathandwa ngokwenyani kwaye baxhaswa ziintsapho zabo kwaye nobomi beemvakalelo obudityanisiweyo kubomi babo bomsebenzi njalo njalo. Kodwa kusekho abantu abaninzi abaziva bengenako ukuphuma baye emsebenzini, okanye kubazali babo kwaye ngubani-ngeendleko ezinkulu kwimpilo yabo yengqondo-bazixelele ukuba oku kulungile. Ukuba ababukeli abakuyekeleli ukuncwina okungafunekiyo okanye iinyembezi ngexesha lokugqibela xa uSteve esusa ibrashi yesikhonkwane kwi-Adam's neurotic grip kwaye emhlamba ngobunono ngeflaneli, ndiza kusilela kumzamo wam wokufumana lo myalezo.